Professor of Ornithology Tim Birkhead FRS joins historian and writer Adam Nicolson FRSL explore how to re-associate the analytical and imaginative aspects of understanding animals. Can we move beyond anthropomorphism to a point where we recognise an equal coexistence with animals? Their conversation, chaired by science writer and broadcaster Claudia Hammond and is hosted in partnership with the Royal Society of Literature, was recorded on 16 October 2017. For more information on events - ow.ly/14p430fXnMk