Ben Rhodes served as a deputy national security adviser and speechwriter for Barack Obama. He is the author of “After the Fall: Being American in the World We've Made.” The following interview was conducted by FRONTLINE’s Jim Gilmore on May 3, 2021. It has been edited for clarity and length. This interview is being published as part of FRONTLINE’s Transparency Project, an effort to open up the source material behind our documentaries. Explore the transcript of this interview, and others, on the FRONTLINE website: www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview-collection/america-after-9-11/ #AmericaAfter911 #BenRhodes #FrontlineInterview Subscribe on YouTube: bit.ly/1BycsJW Instagram: www.instagram.com/frontlinepbs Twitter: twitter.com/frontlinepbs Facebook: www.facebook.com/frontline FRONTLINE is streaming more than 200 documentaries online, for free, here: to.pbs.org/hxRvQP Major funding for FRONTLINE is provided by the Ford Foundation. Additional funding is provided by the Abrams Foundation; the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation; Park Foundation; and the FRONTLINE Journalism Fund with major support from Jon and Jo Ann Hagler on behalf of the Jon L. Hagler Foundation, and additional support from Koo and Patricia Yuen.

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